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Subject: You can't argue with teenage girls
I won't bore you with the whole story of the teenage girls who wouldn't shut up in the movie theatre. Suffice it to say, expressing my disapproval to them in non-verbal ways didn't appear to produce reactions that indicated shame or sympathy. In an era where someone who isn't yet allowed to drive is perfectly comfortable showing off her genital hair trimming technique on the Internet, there is no way to communicate boundaries to such people.

A grown man can't start a fight with a teenage girl. You can't hit them, you can't argue with them, and I've just discovered that you can't efficiently humiliate them. But I don't accept the premise that the only way to win is not to play. What's the fastest, most effective way of causing one pain? I'm willing to entertain options that come from either side of the line of legality.
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One of life's lessons that I've had the most difficulty accepting is that there are fundamentally unreasonable people in the world, and no matter how much I wish it weren't true, they're not at all interested in playing well with others.  There's no common ground, every attempt at dialogue is a personal attack, and they do not give a shit about you or your feelings.

If you do find a workable solution for bringing these people back to the table, face first or otherwise, I'd love to hear about it.
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You misinterpret my goal. The lesson I've drawn from the circumstance is, when there's no option to correct behavior then all that's left to do is punish. I have no expectation of a reasonable response, I'm just trying to inflict some pain. I'm not claiming a moral high ground or any sort of noble purpose here.

Not to overstate the importance of the situation or anything, but this, sadly, is also the attitude of most of the entities at war with the United States. Ever notice the imbalance of national representation in NATO forces? I expect that the other people attempting to shush the offenders in the theatre would similarly not be rushing to their defense if, say, a bank note dye pack happened to explode in their laps. That's a work in progress. :)
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Wrist locks are quite effective, when done properly they are not very visible to people around you and can cause quite a bit of pain! :P
“Be conservative in what you do; be liberal in what you accept from others.” J. Postel
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Yeah, but that actually causes violence, and from a practical standpoint has the disadvantage of causing a verbal response. Although don't think I wasn't seriously considering something that would produce an embarrassing bruise or welt.

I keep coming back to permanent or semi-permanent dyes. Something like iodine that would stain immediately, dry quickly enough to prevent retaliation, and not cause a lot of actual harm. A delivery mechanism is a problem, in that anything that sprays or breaks open can also do so accidentally. I think I'd want something that doesn't have a large coefficient of heat conduction as well, so that in the dark it's not immediately apparent to the target that her cleavage has been stained blue.
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